Copa v Olympics

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Reccossu, Apr 2, 2024.

  1. la torre

    la torre Member+

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are two months out from Copa America starting. Is US soccer going to try to create a buzz about this tournament at all? None of the casual soccer fans I know have any idea this is going on.

    do other people feel this way, or has there been some big marketing push that I’ve missed? Every sports fan I know is aware of the Olympics.
     
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  2. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably too soon. There's enough big stars including Messi to make this an easy sell. Remember thought it's CONMEBOL not US Soccer, MLS or CONCACAF. I'll add it was here a few years back and did quite well which is why it's coming back.
     
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  3. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I saw an add for it last night on Fox Sports 1. The hype is only starting. It'll ramp-up before too long.
     
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  4. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    This is CONMEBOL’s tournament. I would expect Spanish language media to be paying more attention and getting more focus.
     
  5. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about Portuguese language media? Is there any here?
     
  6. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I stopped paying attention to the Olympics about 12-16 years ago and haven't watched the last two. The failure to address drug enhanced performance, sports with judging, and overall governance.
     
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  7. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    It’s comically low awareness throughout the US. I don’t think we’ll even get to 45K in attendance at Arrowhead for the USMNT vs Uruguay.
     
  8. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    There is a recent prominent example of a “played both” in the Americas. Richarlison played in the Copa America (lost in final) and Olympics (where they won gold) for Brazil in 2021.
     
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  9. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    My prediction is at least one player plays in both.
     
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  10. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Who?
     
  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Pepi would be a top candidate to play both. He has been firmly rooted to the bench for PSV.
     
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  12. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I wonder why it is at Arrowhead? I just checked and it's 1800 mi from where I am.
     
  13. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Test drive for World Cup in 2026? Also they have a good soccer culture.

    They still have no chance at filling the upper deck at > $100 a pop all in for nose bleeds.
     
  14. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    I actually think Gio Reyna. Incentives are aligned.
     
  15. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    100% going to Copa America. The Olympics comes down to club. Will BVB release him?
     
  16. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Personally think they will if we ask. Hard to tell though, not sure what their history is on that front. Reinier was on loan (and stayed on loan) with them from Madrid for the last Olympics and he was allowed to play for Brazil. Not sure if that was Madrid or BVB making the call though (he played for the latter the two seasons bookending the games).
     
  17. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The answer is always going to be 100% Copa America.

    Where this question might get a little wonky is how you handle backups who are age eligible. Do you send some like Scally to Paris who's unlikely to play a lot and be willing to turn to DeJuan Jones if comes down to it, same with Pepi and brining in Sarge and Haji instead, or Cardoso and bringing in Maloney. Lund is another one.

    I still come out on the side of no, send your best 23 (or 26) to The Copa and let The Olympic Chips fall where they may. Though if the rumors of players trying to double dip this summer are true, then great
     
  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe a sop to the Midwest for not getting any US games at the 26 WC?
     
  19. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    If Gregg's job is on the line. Gregg would not call up players that he has not called in a long time or doesn't trust. He might call one or two but not more.
     
  20. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Man, no Dest for the Copa was/is absolutely brutal, he made my list of the dozen guys we absolutely could not afford to lose to injury (Pulisic, Weah, McKennie, Adams, Dest, and Reyna), and at the end of the season w/nothing to play for no less. Just brutal.
     
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  21. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Just irreplaceable. It's not to say we can't have a good Copa, but there's simply no one that brings what he brings.
     
  22. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well someone like Scally will now likely play a ton at the Copa America so I imagine no Olympics for him.
     
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  23. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I saw that about 5 minutes after I posted it
     
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  24. cyberthoth

    cyberthoth Member+

    Nashville SC
    Aug 7, 2000
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta think Dest's injury impacts Reynolds the most. I figured him for the Olympics but you gotta take him to Copa at this point. He could be our starter.
     
  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Weah will replace Dest at Copa with DeJuan backing up unless Berhalter decides to go with Scally as back up for Copa because he has had him more in camp and has a suitable replacement for Olympics.

    Who would replace Scally at Olympics? I don't trust some of the alternatives mentioned because the drop off from Scally is too big.
     

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