2024 Concacaf Champions Cup: General [Multiple Rs]

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  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As the QF field gets wrapped up tonight, I just wanted to check notes on 2nd-leg hosting privileges...

    Pachuca-Herediano: "El Team" threw away their chance by falling asleep on that late Robinhood equalizer yesterday, so Pachuca will finish the series at home.

    América-Revs/Alajuelense: While América are grateful that their Clásico didn't get more complicated at the end, getting through with only 3 points after the home loss to Chivas means that the QF 2nd leg hosting honors are the Revs' to lose. We'll see how intent "Liga" are to save face... at least the FO gave a clear message on this tournament's performance, canning Carevic after their drubbing last week.

    Columbus-Tigres: Both went through on 4 points, but Tigres will host the 2nd leg thanks to its superior GD.

    Miami-Monterrey/Cincy: Monterrey have the inside track on the honors, but need to win tonight to guarantee it.
     
  2. Rodrigo Pinto

    Rodrigo Pinto New Member

    Mar 2, 2014
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    Se analisarmos, tanto os Estados Unidos quanto o México sozinhos, tem mais população que toda a América Central e Caribe juntos, então parece meio justo essa quantidade de clubes que eles têm.

    mas, o meu desejo seria uma Champions igual à da Europa, com fase eliminatória e fase de grupos com 32 equipes (8 grupos de 4 cada). Cada grupo teria 1 mexicano e 1 norte americano ou canadense e o resto seria de 8 vagas da america central e 8 de clubes do caribe.
     
  3. AlleXyS

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    Steaua Bucureşti
    Apr 22, 2014
    Bucharest
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    football is not about population, is about performance. Tell that to Croatia which reached final phases of World Cup last 2 seasons. Or to Uruguay which have Penarol and Nacional, some south american giants vs Brazil and Argentina
     
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  4. Rodrigo Pinto

    Rodrigo Pinto New Member

    Mar 2, 2014
    Club:
    Fluminense Rio Janeiro
    sim você tem razão, futebol é desempenho. Apesar que no caso, Estados Unidos e México são os melhores mesmo no continente em desempenho de clubes. A uns anos atrás, o torneio tinha 4 representantes apenas do México e Estados Unidos, e dois deles disputavam uma fase eliminatória antes de chegar na fase de grupos que tinha 16 ou 24 clubes. Creio que este era o melhor formato
     
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  5. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heading into the second legs this week, worth keeping in mind:

    - On the left side of the bracket, Pachuca's on 7 points to América's 6, so the tuzos have the inside track on hosting the return leg of the semifinals.

    - As for the regios, Tigres have yet to win on the road this Champions Cup, and they're tied with Columbus on 5 points... meaning that Monterrey, who are on a perfect record so far, are already guaranteed to host the second leg of the SF if they make it. For their part, Miami only have 4 points, so they'd have to win and hope Tigres/Crew ends in a draw to finish their semifinal at home.
     
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  6. TyphonInc

    TyphonInc Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Jul 3, 2018
    Dublin, OH
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vamos Crew!
     
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  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While we await the schedule for the semifinals - knowing that Pachuca and Monterrey will host the return legs of their respective series - there is a potential concern with the Final (h/t to @Nico Limmat for the find). The anonymous club source shared:

    1. Concacaf has yet to inform the remaining clubs whether the Champions Cup Final will be held at a neutral venue or hosted by the finalist with the better record;

    2. If the latter, then outside of the highly unlikely scenario where the Crew would host the Final, it would have to be slightly rescheduled: June 2 is Election Day in Mexico, so security concerns would obligate them to play the Final on June 1.
     
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  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, Concacaf dropped quite a significant update in the middle of its semifinal schedule announcement:


    Meaning that the neutral venue option is shelved for this year (Concacaf, probably: "Thanks for nothing, Messi :mad:")... and hilariously, there's a non-zero chance we end up with the exact same Final as in 2021, after which América cried to high heaven about the unfairness of the format, and Concacaf promptly caved and brought back the home-and-away Final for the following CCL.
     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Match should be fun to watch
     
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  11. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the first legs in the books, the current records among the semifinalists:

    CF Monterrey - 12 pts
    CF Pachuca - 11 pts
    Club América - 10 pts
    Columbus Crew - 9 pts

    So, if Monterrey turn things around and win their semifinal, they're guaranteed to host the Final. OTOH, if Columbus hold on, then they're heading back to Mexico UNLESS they win the second leg AND América win their semifinal with another draw, either on away goals or on penalties.
     
  12. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Match about to start
     
  13. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't really think you can debate that the best two teams in the tournament are none other than our Finalists :thumbsup:

    So, it's Pachuca hosting Columbus in early June (potentially Saturday, June 1) for all the marbles!
     
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