Transfer Rumors Abroad

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Froboy69, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I do not have any independent opinion about that.
    I apparently just report what people say and flow with the consensus majority of what I am hearing rules.
     
  2. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  3. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia


    don’t take it personal
     
  4. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I take nothing personal unless I have a vote on it from various people I have never met.
     
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  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Lyon, Monaco and Nice are all reportedly interested in Lucumi.
     
  6. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Rather stay on serie a
     
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  7. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    for defenders Italy is the best. Only issue is Italy is way slower than the EPL. I just really wouldn't want him at Man U. Not sure if Atletico Madrid would be great either. Would be great if he could go to AC Milan. I just dont see him at Inter with Bastoni there
     
  8. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Was gonna say Perennial champions leagues in France with Monaco>Bologna but holy shit didn't realize Bologna are pretty big favorites to qualify for the champions league next year. If I'm Lucemi and there is a big payday I probably take it tbh, but it's a nice spot to be in playing in the Champions League with a cinderella you helped get there.
     
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  9. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    French league is a feeder league. PSG is the only team that has money or any chance of winning. It's not a great place to go.

    Italy has Inter, Juve, Milan who are the contenders then Lazio, Napoli, Roma who can depending on the year fight for the title. It's a better league to be in and our players have done the best in Italy out of every other country.
     
  10. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Falcao is currently rumored to go to Tigres of Mexico.
     
  11. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    That man needs to retire
     
  12. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    He still thinks Lorenzo will call him up if he plays minutes at a club so I doubt he retires soon.
     
  13. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Italy is a feeder league as well, it's not like 20 years ago. There's the EPL and then there are the top teams in the other leagues, Italy is better competition overall then France but the gap is not so big these days with a lot of Italian clubs struggling financially. If he's linked to the top Italian teams great, but if his choice is Bologna or Monaco then Monaco has a lot more to offer in terms of European competition.
     
  14. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    this guy has been in great form lately, he's like another guajiro

     
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  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Italy might not be as cash powerful as the EPL but they're not a feeder league by any means, and they're the best league in this season's European tournaments. The gap between Serie A and Ligue 1 is almost as big as with the Eridivise, which is by all means a feeder league.

    1 England (L, C, LC[c]) 18.571 24.357 21.000 23.000 17.375 104.303 1/8 4 2 1 7
    2 Spain (L, C) 18.928 19.500 18.428 16.571 15.312 88.739 1/8
    3 Italy (L, C) 14.928 16.285 15.714 22.357 19.428 88.712 3/7
    4 Germany (L, C) 18.714 15.214 16.214 17.125 17.928 85.195 3/7
    5 France (L, C) 11.666 7.916 18.416 12.583 16.083 66.664 2/6
    6 Netherlands (L, C) 9.400 9.200 19.200 13.500 10.000 61.300 0/5 3 2 1 6
    7 Portugal (L, C) 10.300 9.600 12.916 12.500 11.000 56.316 0/6
     
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  16. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008

    They're all feeder leagues to the EPL though in some way or another, individual teams in those leagues might differ near the top but being on a mid table team in Italy is probably not better for your career then a team like Monaco who is always in Europe and has a lot of money historically. Italy is a better league overall, and Lucemi will be playing in the champions league next year, but I think most players the choice would be clear for a team like Monaco over Bologna, Bologna are not likely to keep this up.
     
  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    He is speedy and has some great, subtle dribbling moves like Diaz to get past a defender and even double teams.
    Shooting is not great, but not terrible either. Definitely hope he will be on Lorenzo's Radar in the near future.
     
  18. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali
    I wouldn't consider Italy a feeder league. Mostly because players playing Serie A are already pretty much primed for the big stages once playing in Serie A. So Liga or EPL may 'poach' from Serie A but it will be at a much much higher fee than an unpolished player from say Porto or Ajax or Standard. Had Luis Diaz been killing it at Serie A, he would have been poached for 2x the price they paid for him at Porto.

    Even mid table EPL teams have enough loot to bring on a player from Serie A but it will still come with a hefty price tag. Look at Haaland's path from a feeder league to Bundasliga and eventually sold to Man City for 3x what Dortmund payed for the player just 2 years prior. Which is why I wouldn't consider Bundasliga a feeder league either, similar to Serie A.
     
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  19. Doogs

    Doogs Member+

    Dec 11, 2010
    Miami
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah, that's a bit hyperbolic, IMHO. Sería A teams regularly compete well with Prem teams in continental play.
     
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  21. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Eh I don't really think Haaland is a good example at all, Haaland only signed for Dortmund because they agreed to a tiny release clause, Dortmund is absolutely a "feeder team" a lot of good players go there because they are happy to be a stepping stone and include a reasonable release clause they don't even have enough sway to turn down their direct rivals in Bayern. The same thing for Porto or Ajax, Porto, Ajax and Benfica players have arguable commanded bigger transfers than most of Italian transfers the main reason being that although Portugal and Netherlands are smaller leagues the top teams in those leagues are financially in a better position and can negotiate from a position of strength, which is not the case for most of the Italian teams anymore.

    Serie A players just aren't on a hefty price tag anymore, and many of the signings in Italy have dried up, look at Inter best team in Italy and they are forced to make free signings last few years. Economically the Italian clubs are not doing good, and that may continue to widen unless something changes financially for them. Ironically the model of using older experienced players and not commanding high transfer fees regularly out of Italy is probably one of the bigger reasons they're falling behind, the big clubs in smaller leagues are better placed going forward imo even if the Italian elite like Inter/Napoli are still very good.
     
  22. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Any further information on him as a player would be welcome. Thanks. £900000 is stated to be the fee.
     
  23. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    watford loves Colombians

    wish that family would send them to udinese like they use to
     
  24. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    All you have to do is look at Serie A transfers out from Serie A to EPL for 23/24 excluding loaned players. There is no evidence that Serie A is simply feeding into the EPL as a pre-established pathway, in the way the Dutch and Portuguese league offer . No league in the world has the money that EPL offers, Serie A included, so that's a moot point. Everyone is always going to try to buy low and sell high where they can but that doesn't mean it's a feeder league.

    But even with these financial disparities some transfers show players transfer out of Serie A or a lower fee than what they were originally bought for and some of their best are sold for a higher fee but that's just business. These are all our opinions but factually Italy sits just 3rd in the Euro coefficient table granting Champion League statusand just a whisker behind #2 Spain but above Germany and comfortably 20+ points above France, which I would consider more of a feeder league.

    So if your argument is that the EPL is feeding (rather my term 'poaching') the best from ALL the leagues because they're the strongest/richest league in the world, then yes I agree with that. But I would be hard pressed to think, Juventus, Milan, Inter, Lazio and on and on are competing and preparing their players to eventually feed into the EPL as their goal. I don't buy it.
     

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