When Ghanaians think of Nordsjælland, they do not think of a future in Denmark but in the top 4 leagues of Europe, when they think of San Diego they will think of what kind of future exactly ? But do not forget that the players now finally being sold by Nordsjælland for record transfer fees at the age of 19, joined the club when they were 13. So this has been a 6 year development.
Is this a schtick? Or do you actually think its impossible to play in a top 4 league if you play in the MLS?
No, but I think it's impossible for an MLS club to do what Nordsjælland have been doing, because no MLS clubs would field a slightly reinforced youth team. It's just unthinkable because the league results will always be more important than the youth development in the USA, while it's the other way around at Nordsjælland, that use vastly more money on their youth than they spend on their Superliga team. So the business models will never really be comparable, even if they try to emulate it to some extend. The same goes for the Nordsjælland rivals in the Danish Superliga, because non of them are able to do the same as they do.
To be clear, your original position was that San Diego was a non-starter. You are correct that San Diego would never emulate Nordsjælland and that's ok. Why emulate them when you already have them? Instead, have a different beast for different situations. My position is that there is feasibility for San Diego depending on the situation. This does not invalidate Nordsjælland, FWIW. 1) Nordsjælland might not have a sporting need for that player at the given moment. 2) Nordsjælland might not be able to financially accommodate the player's demands due to FFP or accommodating other players. 3) The player might already be in agreement with an EPL club and will need a short loan to get BPE points. In any case, please remember that you waltzed in to the San Diego thread and not vice versa.
The Nordsjælland Superliga budget is tiny small and they pay very low wages and hardly any transfer fees in compare to other Superliga clubs, what attract young talents from all over Europe and Africa is the fact that they field a youth team at top-flight level and everyone get a chance to play, and for the selling club the "bait" is not the transfer fee itself, but a very good % of a possible huge sales price when the player turn 19 or so. FFP is never going to be an issue at Nordsjælland. They usually pay little to nothing but bring in a boatload of profit on the transfer market, which they for the most part spend on their youth academy.
Well, Denmark pretty much has no snow (unless of cause you include Greenland) but a dark and rainy winter, but also a very nice summer weather (though never too over whelming or dangerously hot) with bright light even late at night, so the weather is both as good and bad as it comes, considering the seasons, though the winter is now shorter than the summer due to climate change, which highly favors the Nordic countries but no doubt is a disaster further down south. Financially, Danes just seem to know how to make money out of nothing, or even a profit out the most impossible situation and worst crisis, so believe it or not, the Corona virus, the war in Ukraine and the higher food and energy prices has actually been a blessing for the Danish economy. So while you are arguing about a government debt, we have seen an increasing government budget surplus. It went from a small $613 million budget deficit in 2020 to a surprising $8.4 billion surplus in 2021 and a just as surprising $18.4 billion surplus in 2022. The full 2023 figures have not yet been released, but is shows a $9.9 billion budget surplus in the first 3 out of 4 quarters of 2023, despite a huge increase in military spending's and billions worth of military aid for Ukraine. No government mandated minimum wage laws, but a labor market ruled by strong labor unions and not by multinational corporations who hold no political power.= higher wages in general for the supposed lower income families which then also = more taxes for the government, not least including a 25% Vat sales tax on everything. So when Corona and Russia made the prices go up, it automatically generated more money from taxes. But Denmark's biggest export is not young soccer players I'm afraid, but biotechnology and pharmaceuticals (from Novo, Lundbeck, LEO Pharma, Orifarm, ALK-Abello, Bavarian Nordic, William Cook and so forth) , then food in 2nd place that now has become more expensive everywhere, not to forget that the worlds 2nd largest container shipping company Maersk made their largest profit ever last year, and LEGO is always doing great no matter how expensive it is. The Corona virus did not change this at all, because when people were told to stay at home, then pharmaceuticals and LEGO is what would spring to mind, as some kind of comfort and enjoyment. Here it is a disadvantage to be rich if you hope to get elected for parliament. In fact, you have no chance of getting elected in Denmark, if you do not comply to the unwritten "Jante law" (you are no better than the rest) and if you do not act like a 'next door neighbor' or a relative. So a "God bless" rhetoric at the end of a speech or trying to make yourself seem "powerful", rich and on top of the World will do you no good, but only make sure that you do not get elected due to a lack of down to earth humbleness.
Who would have guessed that a United States youth national teams forum thread on San Diego would be filled with long rambling posts about Nordsjælland where the only player even close to relevant for this forum is 24 year old Milan Iloski from USL
They'll also play against academy teams from the other 28 MLS teams, as well as academy teams from Liga MX, etc.
You need to fight this battle someplace else. This stuff is ridiculously off topic here. Everyone: I am going to issue 1 thread ban and delete a few posts. Let's move on.
For some reason this Guardian article that only mentions Nordsjælland twice... Can San Diego FC pull off their plan to be the Ajax of North America?
Well, that article had quite a different tone than anything in this thread (Read this thread start to finish after Ceres posted in a different thread that his free speech had been taken). The focus on student athletes was new (having college bound kids and Euro league bound kids together by design). That angle was not mentioned anywhere here at all. I’m convinced that in spite of all the bluster and absolute confidence espoused in this thread no one really knows much about details/intent/model of the San Diego Dream academy. LOL ‘We shall see’ is about the only accurate statement from us BS-ers.
I think the difference to me is San Diego very clearly does care about the academy and has clear plans to utilize it. How long those plans take to come to fruition is an open question but I’m not worried about it long term. Whereas I don’t think Nashville cares a ton about their academy.
Entirely unsurprising in terms of an early signing BREAKING: San Diego FC are in advanced talks to sign Mexico star Chucky Lozano from PSV, per sources.Deal not done yet. Would be around $12m fee.Lozano, 28, is about to win the league title with PSV. Starred with them and Napoli in Europe. https://t.co/W7lptiiRfb— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) April 29, 2024 And it feels like will take a few years till they are really rolling with academy products
That would be a very smart signing IMO. A MexNT starter who still has the wheels/technique to score a lot of goals in the MLS. Should get the Mexican-American supporters excited....
The MLS teams are going to start doing this soon with American players. Pulisic, McKennie, Adams, Reyna. I hope they don't take the bait.
I don't see why any of those guys would leave Europe for MLS anytime soon, even after the 2026 World Cup given their ages, the ones who leave are guys who are on the fringe of the national team or on the outside looking in, Steffen, Vines, Bassett, Mihailovic, etc. weirdly all to the Rapids lol If we see returning players it's more likely to be guys like Reggie Cannon who are not playing. At this point it's almost impossible to make the USMNT A-team roster if you're in MLS, see the Nations League roster where 23/25 call ups were in Europe with Miles and Callender the only exceptions. That wasn't the case when guys like Bradley, Dempsey, Altidore, and Howard came back to MLS. I mean look at the 2017 Gold Cup roster... it is not the most impressive set of names outside of those 4 guys who came back to MLS and were added to the roster after the group stage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_CONCACAF_Gold_Cup_squads#United_States