German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

If the only metric for player solid analysis was goals... then yes, Nüsken appears to be a better player now, than she ever was for Frankfurt. But it should be very obvious, there's far more to this game than simply scoring goals, with Nüsken's best overall season within club football, happening when she was doing far more than scoring goals being a DM for Franfkurt...

MVT also never close to getting the best out of anyone for a consistent period of time, I don't know why we need to mention what Nüsken didn't do for the wnt.... But within club football, the idea the coaching credentials of Hayes untapped a new potential in Nüsken, is just false lol.

For me this new found status for Nüsken, speaking to a frustrating element of women's football I often call clout factor, which typically obscures people vision from noticing obvious truths concerning the best, or more overrated elements of the women's game.

I mean... I've seen more rational Chelsea fans analysis on Nüsken, also asking if she's actually just a good CM player who's best role in future likely to be in a double 6, DM/Pivot role.... But I know it going to be vary rare to see many people look at Nüsken's pre/current Chelsea form with genuine analysis.

 

Who said this was going to be a blockbuster match...? Germany will need to be facing Spain for that to happen...

But when it comes to the facing the USwnt, I was just personally speaking on the fact a very tactically poor MVT was able to compete twice away from home Vs the USwnt, in ways I'm now very interested to see how this will look with Germany's players about to enter an era of prolonged superior quality coaching.

The WC for Germany such an epic failure, I feel few people truly understand the genuine potential of Germany's team on the world stage right now, once it gets the solid coaching players not seen for over a decade.

And knowing what MVT able to accomplish with no idea what she was meant to do lol (her words, not mine..), it's become very interesting to speculate what a better coach like Hrubesch could do, if he get's this team producing something close to it's true potential before an even better Wück eventually takes over...

 

Like I said... she holds a unfair reputation for being something she's not, with most people also selectively ignoring how much overtly physical attention always placed on her, when she's not close to being a giant, and seen this negative attention set her back with lots of career defining injury, forcing her out of many important moments for the wnt too.

I mean look at Popp's career, and try to find the times she's actually hurt someone.... and I bet you can't do it. But then look at the same period of time, and notice how much injury has forced Popp out of important matches for club and country...

Clearly, most of the opinion on Popp formulated using a lot of strange bias. And it's become so prevalent now, it will often bleed over at times to rival fans, media, and coaches, actively applauding Germany's opponents for going out of their way to try and hurt this teams best players...

The recent WC a moment in time where the world turn the other way watching Colombia successfully showcase the most negative elements of the game to find a positive result Vs Germany's women lol. With us later seeing someone as respected as Julie Foudy even resort to praising her USwnt for injuring Oberdorf, all because it was felt the only way to stop Oberdorf's influence over their second friendly match..

So yeah... call me crazy, but I'm not particularly fond of this narrative Popp some kind of thug, when I know what's been really happening to her on the field of play for years. With this false narrative only likely to be applied to Oberdorf next, knowing over the coming years under a new coach, Germany set to establish a new identity without Popp...

 

Hegering is injured, and will miss the two opening Euro qualifiers Vs Austria, and Iceland. Once again highlighting how much the wnt will need to address the lack of depth in the squads defensive roles.

I don't understand why Küver is healthy, but still not being used by Wolfsburg, in the process halting her advancement into the wnt CB pool. But with Hegering missing again, the least I'm hoping to see is Hrubesch handle this better than Jones, or MVT ever did...

Doorsoun will likely step up now... but judging past performances, and knowing Kleinherne still not trusted, it important Hrubesch can get his team producing good football without his main 11-13 players all being fit.

 

If Feli Rauch shows good NWSL form, do you think she can come back in to contention for a role in the NT, if defenders are needed ?

 

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Hotjam2, can you read where Dallmann is?

 

Good that Hrubesch doesn't care about your opinion.

https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/b...eague-in-europe.2121955/page-51#post-41168641

 

Damn right... with Simon only recently training with Bayern's first team, and no sign of these coaches acknowledging wnt level talent like Lührßen, who remain outside the leagues top teams, Rauch 100% had to return to the squad.

The senior wnt for a long time now having a MAJOR issue with coaches trusting the league/national player pool of defensive talent, to create a ridiculous scenario Huth, Hagel, Nüsken, all selected as defenders for the recent WC, with us all seeing how that would end...

So I really hope some minor improvements in player analysis can start with Hrubesch, before we can hopefully get a giant leap forward in this same department with the introduction of Wück, as there's ZERO excuse for CM/AM/FW being asked to play in defence anymore...

 

LOL... I think you might want to pay closer attention to the amount of horrible fouls elite players will endure in men's football...


Ronaldo starting in the EPL, receiving some CRAZY fouls on a regular basis, from defenders who were rarely punished by the referee's with yellow or red cards. It only right/intelligent that players will look to protect themselves.

And while people ignore all the elbow, knees, pushing, pulling, and more... that Popp will receive, it's always pretty annoying to see people claim Popp somehow dirty just because she tries to make it clear to the referee that defenders are crossing the line to try and stop her influence on the game...

I mean... how many yellow cards do you see Popp receive for supposedly being a "dirty" player...? 7 yellow cards all last season, the most she's amassed in the last 7 years... Stanway in the top 3 this season for most fouls... silence... Hausicke as the #1 dirty player in the league see's you give her praise lol...

Brand has more fouls this season than Popp... BRAND! But no... Popp is somehow Germany's most deviously dirty player lol... yeah, OK.

 

I have some opinions on a particular new defensive selection.... But I honestly don't know how Lohmann is going to retain a place within the wnt for much longer..., with Freigang a player who also needs to start doing something impressive to justify her role on the wnt, as her competing with Kössler, or Cerci, means I can see her fading away from regular selection over time too.

Plus I don't see how both Anyomi, and Freigang, meant to coexist in the wnt like they do Frankfurt. When I genuinely believe Anyomi's future is this teams CAM, moving ahead of both Freigang, and Lohmann, as the one to eventually replace Magull...

Leaving the issue with Dallmann a very strange one, knowing it obvious why wide forward options like Bühl, Brand, Endemann, all in the squad now, while doubt exists around the coaches understanding Dallmann's best role, incorrectly believing Anyomi the better wide forward...

I think the coaches see their current squad functioning like this... and I can see some real issues.
----------------- Magull/Kössler ------------- Schüller/Freigang ------------------------------
Bühl/Brand -------------------------------------------------------------- Endemann/Anyomi
------------ Oberdorf/Senß/Lohmann ----------------- Nüsken/Däbritz -------------------------------
Ruach/Linder ------- Doorsoun/Salano ------------ Hendrich -------- Gwinn/Wolter
--------------------------------- Frohms/Grohs/Johannes ----------------------------------------------

 

This not the Olympics, but the start of Euro qualification. And with this in mind, I'm not particularly sure how the coaches have come to conclusion Kleinherne, or Mahmutovic, no longer have any place within the wnt...

For reasons I still can't understand, no matter how well Kleinherne performs, the wnt coaches refuse to let her have any real opportunities to demonstrate what she can do as a CB within this team.

And it might be the thing that eventually pushes Kleinherne to leave Frankfurt to play outside Germany, as this seems to be the only way these dummies appear to recognise the depth of the national talent pool...

Congratulating Salona on her German wnt selection, after previously being selected for Spain, a very strange moment in time lol. But I do find it crazy she's been pushed ahead of Kleinherne right now, based on the careers of both players suggesting this a very contentious decision if we're looking at actual accomplishments...

Mahmutovic or Grohs should 100% be ahead of Beger too, knowing Berger no longer starting games for Chelsea anymore. But wow... having felt for a long time something very wrong with the wnt's analysis on defenders, seeing a 6th place Liga F side back 3 playing CB Salano, get selected ahead of Kleinherne...

 

With her latest inclusion, it needs to be said Wolter potentially in a very strong position to be selected for the Olympic team now; knowing she a stronger CB than a FB, trying to make a team with limited roster spots.

If the coaches understand this fact about Wolter, or recognise Wolter'ss ability to function within multiple defensive roles, it makes her a far stronger contender to be part of a Olympic squad, where 3 CB's, could potentially be aided by a 3rd FB selection, converting into a credible 4th CB...

And it has me wonder... is this why Salano part of the wnt now... knowing she's playing for a Bilbao side that regular features a back 3, meaning Salano's surprise inclusion with a view of her being a FB/CB in the fashion previous coaches kept trying to convert Kleinherne...?

Hendrich the only German CB who genuinely able to play a secondary role as a very strong FB. Are the wnt coaches trying to find another FB/CB with the inclusion of Salano. And if this true, in Wolter and L.Ostermeier,I think these dummies already have stronger examples of this within the 1.Bundesliga...

 

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Again... your example of Ronaldo being a cheat, probably the worst example to provide here, considering how much fouls a goat status goal scorer like him will have endured over his career lol.

But the point you were initially trying to make here, is that Popp somehow a serial cheat, or a player prepared to hurt her opponents, in ways that justifies the negative stigma placed on her by biased commentators, or disgruntled rival coaches.

And now in a sport we've been able to see MANY female players who will actively try to deceive referee's by simulating minimal contact as opportunities to win PK's, and free kicks, or get opponents booked, I still don't see Popp in the list of players who's career ever defined by her needing to showcase such deceitful traits activity to achieve major success...

Even if this sport still officiated with a sense of individual discretion afforded to the referees, I've never seen Popp involved in enough supposedly controversial moments to validate the claims she's a cheat.

But knowing how people are around here, I'd be interested to see someone find a list of moments to present countering evidence to show me where Popp deserving of such a negative reputation for simulation....

 

Scary part about this comment, is I'm not even sure the wnt coaches actually know how good she is either... Likely selecting Salano using the same flawed reasonings behind Huth, Anyomi, Hagel, Nüsken, all being ahead of Linder, and Kleinherne, as WC defenders...

Me previously speculating Salano potentially called into the German wnt as a CB/FB, right now I think this just me being far to positive on coaches, who'd oversee the same goofy player analysis that's prevented Germany's defence from establishing genuine depth for years.

These not only the same people who part of Jones, and MVT's coaching staff, but STILL overseeing the wnt's squad selection right now. It makes sense why they refuse to respect, or understand the importance of a real defender like Kleinherne.

Creating scenarios a 25yo 6th place Bilbao playing CB, who doesn't even start for her club each week, gets selected ahead of Kleinherne lol..., with Krumbiegel's season not close FB's like to Sterner, Lührßen, Gerhardt, L.Ostermeier, still seeing her placed on the call list too...

Minge is a bad CB lol... the attributes pushing her into eventual wnt contention, and eventually gaining the attention of Wolfsburg, all coming in areas specific to her being a very good CM/DM.

Freiburg's coach using Gudorf in her attack, Steuerwald in a DM role, with 2 junior wnt CB's on the bench, speaking to Freiburg having various issues more than Minge simply trying to win a wnt selection by playing in a role she's incredibly underwhelming.

From being her teams top scorer, and one of the leagues most effective attacking box to box AM's last season. To the first of half of this season seeing Minge top the league as it's best tackler within a DM role. It's no coincidence as a CB Minge nowhere near the top CB's in this league lol.

Meaning with Hegering's latest injury, Minge should never have had any relevance towards being a potential CB replacement for the wnt. I mean.. Wolfsburg are pretty dumb, but you think Wolfsburg dumb enough to use lose Oberdorf, and decide to use Minge as a CB...?

 

I still really dislike the use of Popp in a 2nd forward/CAM role. Knowing the various issues that continue to arise the moment Germany faces an opponent using a strong trio of CM's...

Hrubesch's potential Olympic 18.. (starters)
-------------------------- Popp ------------ Schüller/Freigang ---------------------------
Bühl ------------------------------------------------------------------ Brand/Endemann
---------- Oberdorf/Däbritz -------------------- Nüsken/Lohmann --------------
Linder/Rauch ----- Hegering -------------- Hendrich/Doorsoun ------ Gwinn
--------------------------------- Frohms/Johannes ------------------------------------
OR
My Olympic 18...
-------------------------- Popp -------------- Schüller/Anyomi -------------------------
Bühl ------------------------------------------------------------------ Brand/Endemann
-------------- Oberdorf/Latteiwn ---------------- Nüsken/Senß ---------------
Linder/Rauch ----- Hegering -------------- Hendrich/Doorsoun ------ Gwinn
--------------------------------- Frohms/Johannes ------------------------------------

Something tells me coaches will continue to find some new way of introducing something really dumb with the defence lol (if Hegering isn't healthy...), but with a limited 18 player roster it almost forces Hrubesch to actively select a more obvious list of 6 defensive names here.

And looking at the mid-field, while I agree Lohmann's lack of game time as a CM, or in fact a general lack of game time for her club correctly seeing her left out of the Olympic squad. I feel like she's in Hrubesch's favour right now, which unlikely to see her wnt place come under genuine scrutiny until the new coach takes over.

So if this team really set on using a double 6, and two forwards, I'd personally see Anyomi the replacement for Magull here, but also a far better FW option to take ahead of Freigang. Also identifying Lattwein/Senß being superior double 6 CM over Däbritz within this system too.

 

The more I look at the Bilbao team, and Salano, the more frustratingly underwhelming this weird completely random selection for the wnt becomes lol.

I mean, how do the wnt coaches ignore their own league, their own junior wnt's, and come to the conclusion not only is Kleinherne somehow not to their standards, but see defenders like Pucks, Küver, Krug, Meißner, and deem them all irrelevant to the present conversation for potential wnt CB's...

How are you supposed to discover and develop anything, when your own system refuses to promote you, or even acknowledge you existence...?

No evidence Salano possessing any qualities superior to what currently available within the 1.Bundesliga, with Salano's club form also not even particularly impressive either..., it a timely reminder Linder wasn't considered good enough over the year the wnt coaches knew Gwinn unlikely to make the WC lol... what a joke...

 

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.... With news Senß now replaced by Minge in the wnt squad, I'm thinking might not this have been the perfect moment to see Gräwe receive her first senior wnt squad selection...?

At Freiburg, Minge for reasons that are still unclear, randomly being forced into a CB role this season, seeing the general quality of her performances end up nowhere near what they were when she was leading the league as one of it's best CM/DM's.

And even if Minge as the slightly more senior player, currently being selected for the wnt right now simply based on her more impressive prior form as a CM/DM. If were talking about the best German CM/DM's this season, it's still a bit strange not seeing Gräwe part of a senior debate...

 

I also think seeing Kleinherne leave the cup semi final half way through the 2nd half, without any apparent sign of injury, might actually explain her current absence in the latest wnt squad...

As a key player carrying a minor injury, but wanting to play in her clubs semi final match, knowing she couldn't last the full 90 mins at risk of making this minor injury getting worse, might have asked the wnt to leave her out of the next international break...

But again lol... this is also me really wanting to believe the wnt coaches aren't completely useless in their player analysis, as I struggle to understand why/how they often come to their conclusions on what constitutes a competent defender...