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  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    On this day, 30 years ago, Eric Cantona stunned the football world by launching a karate kick at a Crystal Palace fan during a match.


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  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Need to give lessons to Darwin Nuñez.
     
  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Should’ve been wearing skates. :)
     
  5. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Potential college soccer news coming?

     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I checked in on Cade, getting a start vs. Tigres tonight. He looks....a little better, but still, for the most part, Cade gonna Cade. On the positive side he was a key cog in Chivas's goal as he made a blistering run from midfield onto a perfectly weighted thru ball, beat the last defender easily, but when he approached the keeper he probably should have chipped him, but he tried to go around him, and wound up hitting it straight him. Fortunately for Chivas the ball clanked off of the GK and right to another Chivas attacker who put it into a more or less open net.

    He had another breakaway of sorts down the middle with one defender to beat and another guy coming up on his right. With the 2nd defender coming up on his right, he probably should have veered left and shot with his left. But he tried to squeeze a right-foot shot in, and I guess he didn't hit it well or it hit the defender, because it rolled harmlessly straight to the keeper.

    Other than that he made a couple of good defensive plays and didn't lose the ball much. I'd say he looks a little bit more comfortable on the ball.
     
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  7. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why? This lawsuit isn’t looking good for the NASL side.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Even if the NASL wins the $500M lawsuit, then what?

    I seriously doubt any of the old owners will bring back the league and the only one who is worth anything is Rocco B. Commisso.

    Unless Rocco gets the money to bring back the Cosmos, will others follow or is he going to put them in MLS?

    How can he do that when it now costs almost $1 billion with expansion fees and a new stadium to place a team in MLS?

    Also, he is worth is $6.3 billion USD so will this money even matter to him?

    Even if he wins, the only thing I can foresee is him using that money towards his other team, Fiorentina in Italy.

    Anyway, I doubt he will re-invest in a new NASL.
     
  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    You're not looking at this correctly, I think. I'll defer to @don gagliardi on the legal points, but from my perspective this is a palpable blow to the single-entity structure of MLS and to the virtual trust/monopoly MLS/USSF maintain over the heirarchy of soccer in the US. I think it portends as long period of legal churn that likely will not please the powers-that-be.
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #19436 xbhaskarx, Jan 26, 2025
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  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #19437 xbhaskarx, Jan 26, 2025
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2025
    This doesn't jeopardize US Soccer, MLS, the World Cup, or anything else.

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    This is true, but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't jeopardize any of those things. It wouldn't even bring NASL back. Maybe Fiorentina would get to buy a new winger or something but that's about it in terms of soccer consequences... Other than that this is about how much money NASL owners get, from 0 to 3 bucks (like USFL from the NFL) to a couple hundred million like they want.
     
  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #19438 falvo, Jan 26, 2025
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2025
    I don't think so.

    How will this court case hurt MLS?

    If the NASL wants to fund a league and call themselves a first divison, who really cares?

    I mean if I were in charge of the USSF -MLS , I wouldn't care at all and if they have the money to compete, let them do so.

    If anything, especially if they are playing in different cities, I'd welcome all the competition, more leagues, teams and players.

    Also, I'm not a lawyer like @don gagliardi but I don't see how the USFL vs. NFL lawsuit pertains to any of this.

    That court ruling came almost 40 years ago and even though the USFL won, they were only awarded $3.00.

    Therefore, what will the NASL really gain even if they win?

    Even if the win the lawsuit, I still fail to see how $500 million in this day and age is a lot of money.

    It may help a few USL -NASL owners recover some losses and I'm sure Fisher would welcome the cash but other than that, I don't see how that amount of money will fund an entire league.
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would Fisher welcome NASL owners recovering some money?
     
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  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #19440 falvo, Jan 26, 2025
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2025
    No that is not what I meant.

    I meant, I'm sure Fisher individually would welcome being awarded $500 million in cash for himself or his club as would any other owner but my point is or was, I don't see how that is a lot of money to fund for an entire league of owners.

    Even if you divide it among 10-12 clubs or owners, is there that much leftover?

    I don't think it will help that much and even if they win, I still doubt the league will re-surface.
     
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  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    With his penalty for AC Milan today, Christian Pulisic has still NEVER missed a penalty in his professional career for both club and country.

    He’s 12/12 from the spot. Clinical [​IMG][​IMG]

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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chiefs owner Clark Hunt called as witness in NASL-MLS antitrust trial

    “They were, frankly, never really on my radar,” Hunt said of the defunct Division II league. “I was not aware of them.”
    ...
    Hunt’s testimony might prove valuable for the defense. As a seasoned sports executive, his expertise might carry weight to the jury. He also testified how he believed MLS has only two sets of competitors: other American professional leagues, such as the NFL, MLB, NHL and NBA, and the professional soccer leagues around the globe, such as the English Premier League or La Liga. They compete for fans, potential investors and even available public resources, he testified.
    he did the meme
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  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The case resumes Monday, with another billionaire media executive, Rocco Commisso, expected to take the stand. The Mediacom founder and CEO is credited with saving NASL when he purchased a majority stake in the league’s New York Cosmos in 2017. He is also presumed to be funding NASL’s lawsuit.​

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    Wonder what they'll ask him about the twitter account...

    The coming weeks could get rancorous. Ruskin pointed out [Carmelo] Anthony paid nothing for his team and only agreed to promote it. And he said the trial would reveal that Commisso, the colorful former NASL chairman who is funding the lawsuit, had a fake Twitter handle in 2017 he used to post nasty messages about the defendants.
     
  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember all the lawsuits USSoccer was dealing with in 2019-2020? Between that and the pandemic, Also, the lawsuits caused a big drop in donations. The coffers of USSoccer almost ran dry, and I believe they are still trying to recover.

    So if they got hit with having to pay $250-500M, unless they had a good liability policy (which probably doesn’t cover anti-trust charges), they would not have the funds to run WC 2026. They would probably have to hope that Gianni brings in Saudi Arabia to rescue them.

    I guess that would be ok with Prez Orange — he’d get his share of that too.
     
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  20. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The World Cup isn't funded out of the USSF's budget.
     
  21. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the Federation has to spend quite a bit to run the WC. I don’t think FIFA is running it by itself…
     
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  22. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The cost of the bribes alone must be staggering! ;)
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watch out we got a real legal expert here plus a World Cup expert to boot lol
    What "anti-trust charges"?

    Don't waste your time
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NASL v. USSF & MLS: Aaron Davidson wants to take the Fifth, defendants oppose and want to show how Davidson bribed the Cosmos into joining NASL over USL.

    Subsequently, NASL again moved unsuccessfully to exclude evidence related to Mr. Davidson and Traffic. NASL’s second motion sought to preclude evidence of Mr. Davidson facilitating an improper payment through Traffic Sports in 2011 to entice the New York Cosmos to join the NASL instead of another soccer league. As described below, the Court denied NASL’s motion and ruled that it would “permit defendants to introduce the testimony as well as any related evidence in order to make its point.”

    The week after the Court’s ruling, NASL submitted over 200 objections to Defendants’ designations of Mr. Davidson’s testimony. When discussing those and other deposition designations and objections, the Court previewed that “the overwhelming majority of them are overruled” and “the bulk of what’s in there is going to be admitted.” The Court made clear that “f it’s a designation that I have admitted,” the parties “can use that as you wish” during opening statements, as the testimony would be admissible at trial. A few days later, the Court overruled all of NASL’s objections to the approximately 39 minutes of testimony Defendants seek to introduce from Mr. Davidson.​


    They owned 90% of NASL Team holdings which was keeping the expansion fees instead of sharing it with the other owners...

    Mr. Davidson was the driving force behind NASL’s formation, was its first CEO, its first board Chairman, signed the legal documents bringing the league into existence, and signed the agreement designating Traffic Sports USA as the league’s exclusive marketing agent. At the same time, Mr. Davidson was the President of Traffic Sports USA, which owned three NASL teams, was the principal funder of NASL, owned over 90% of NASL Team Holdings, and held the right to receive expansion fees from new NASL teams.
     

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