Soccer America 1/16 - Goodsport's nightmare!

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by FUAEG, Jan 17, 2007.

  1. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    YIKES!

    Soccer America Article
     
  2. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I thought it would be a new stadium near Spartan instead of rebuilding Spartan.
     
  3. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is. Soccer America is blowing it out their ass on this one. All reports I've read from much more reputable sources say a new stadium is in the works.
     
  4. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I just found and read the article. I don't know where they're getting their info but I'd take that article with a grain of salt. They also claim we'd be coming back in 2010 when Wolff and co. have stated a 2008-09 timetable is much more likely. SoccerAmerica appears to have gotten it very wrong in this case. They make no mention of the city fields, the parking garage, etc... Not only that, but to widen the field you would have to destroy the current stands at the same time. A phased approach wouldn't work.
     
  5. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yea. SA got it totally wrong. Goes to show you can't always believe whats reported in the "paper". I was hoping we could get Goodsport a little worked up over this. He's seems to be posting more about American Idol and I'm a little worried. :)

    Jewell was hot last night BTW.
     
  6. UrawaRed

    UrawaRed New Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Kiyose, Tokyo
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I believe that SA has reported it differently, i.e., correctly, in other articles of theirs.
     
  7. smpfi65

    smpfi65 New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    BySoLeDaDsTaTePriSoN

    Doesn't it make you wonder a little bit about Goodsport putting so much effort into the American Idol thread ................... you think he's preparing himself to make his debut in that show ................ or is he too old for that :D
     
  8. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    Hmm, let's see. You tear down the east side and build a new east side stadium. Then you tear down the west side and build a new one. Whattdya got? A NEW STADIUM.

    It's the same thing folks, just built serially instead of all at once!
     
  9. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA

    It is an interesting concept. I have always suggested that the current footprint provides the path of least resistance. Since it is not a "new" structure (just reworked) there may actually be advantages in terms of permits, EIR issues, etc. Since there have been no announcements from the people who are actually talking with each other, this scenario can't be discounted.
     
  10. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I've heard from people who actually know about construction is that that a complete renovation, done in stages, usually costs more than new construction from the ground up. A complete tear-down and rebuild on the current site wouldn't cost more than a new site, but then you have the problem of no stadium at all during the construction period.
     
  11. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its not really the same thing that was described in the Murky News. That was specific about the site being east of the current Spartan and Spartan coming down for a parking lot.

    This method had been pretty common in England - Replacing a stand at a time. They're forced to do it since there's no adjacent land. It would be messy and more difficult rebuilding a stadium that's being actively used.

    It would be nice to save the trees though. I've always liked the trees at Spartan.
     
  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah the Merc, and other news outlets have all said the east of Spartan is where a totally new stadium is going up. It makes the most sense. Spartan is too old and small too be expanded without significant cost.
     
  13. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    My interpretation of what the article stated was that it was not being "expanded" at all. Level the east side completely, leaving nothing, then rebuild it, with press facilities and luxury boxes. When that is complete, do the exact thing to the west side. Once the east side is down, the field can be widened. It would be a new stadium.

    My guess is that someone got hold of one of the proposals that is on the table for discussion. My hope is that the people doing the talking are considering every possible method. As long as something happens, I am happy. Over on the Spartan boards, there is talk that a new stadium would not carry the Spartan name. This option might open the door to some method of keeping the Spartan Stadium moniker (although there can be little doubt that a corporate name is in the offing....but that doesn't mean that the Spartan Stadium name necessarily has to go).
     
  14. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    This is what I have heard from "people in the know"... I can't say if that's the way it is going to happen, but it IS being discussed.
     
  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that no news outlets have picked up on it. They're all stating it's a new stadium in the other half of that block.
     
  16. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA

    It is certainly worthy of serious consideration. In fact, I can easily see how the 22K number came about. If the current facility were to have all seating removed, then replaced with modern seats, chair and back, I think the resulting capacity would be closer to 22K than the published number.
     

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