Looks like there has been a leak on the confidential TTIP negoations and the outrage is in ascendency cause it is even worse than even fiercest enemies predicted: US negotiators are fighting hard to get away with European consumer, social, food and environmental standards. And contrary to what European policians said about the investment protection courts - they havent even been discussed yet. So, Brussels and Berlin lied. http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/-geheime-ttip-papiere-enthuellt-1.2975097 http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/01/leaked-ttip-documents-cast-doubt-on-eu-us-trade-deal
http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/143690739565/ttippapiere According to the documents, Washington is threatening to prevent the easing of exports for the European car industry in order to force Europe to buy more U.S. agricultural products. The U.S. government concurrently has criticized the fundamental prevention principal of the EU Consumer Centre which protects 500 million Europeans from consuming genetically modified food and hormone-treated meat. The documents further reveal the fact that the U.S. has blocked the urgent European call to replace the controversial private arbitration tribunals, responsible for corporative lawsuits, with a public State model; instead, Washington has made a suggestion on the matter that had hitherto not been disclosed to the public. ... Another serious point of contention is legislative cooperation. Both the U.S. and Europe gave the impression that they were mostly in agreement regarding legislative regulation. But the negotiation papers suggest something very different. While the EU stresses its right to legislative self-determination in the documents, the U.S. wants to severely curtail the scope of European legislators in regards to economic decisions where it has demonstrated in several suggestions it has made. One example is the demand formulated by the U.S. that “each Party shall maintain procedures that promote the consideration of the following factors when conducting a regulatory impact assessment (RIA) for a regulation.” Namely, this means that the EU is supposed to introduce a process that will evaluate “the need for a proposed regulation” in conjunction with an analysis of “the anticipated costs and benefits (quantitative, qualitative, or both) of such alternatives.” ... U.S. legislation is fundamentally different than that of the EU. In the EU, for example, the use of 1,308 various chemicals in cosmetics is prohibited in light of suspicions that they may be carcinogenic. The responsible U.S. authority on the other hand, according to consumer protection organizations, prohibits no more than exactly 11 substances.
The french are not going to give up all that farm money they get from the EU, is like 60% of the EU budget right? (Overall not just the french cut). Car exports vs farmers protections, trying to pit France and Germany against each other.
60% sounds much but that basically all they are allowed to do except for finding common rules. It's a remnant of the after war period when Europe's agrarian sector wasnt competitive and people still very well remembered how it was to starve. And no, why would they? American farmers get the same subsidies. I also dont think it is a car vs farmers thing. It's a clash of cultures about if the precautionary or the do what you ********ing want principle prevails.
you better just take what we are offering and be happy about it. Wait until President Trump's negotiators arrive on scene. It'll be the worst deal for Europeans since the Lousiana Purchase.
Are you sure? When the alternatives are riling up the Donald or eating that genetic cancer food Id think Europeans would gladly take the first.
Even China has seem the light on GM foods. What up with the anti science in Europe with GM crops, they sound like Americans and global warming.
While that is probably true, it doesnt change the fact people dont want to eat American chlorine chicken and all the other stuff that causes cancer. Id go as far and say if the US was suddenly to accept the European cautionary regime most people would be for TTIP. Ive seen an interview with unionists in the US hoping for that to happen cause the European standards are just higher may it be consumer or employee rights. So youd have those workers in it too if there was a race to the top. But in fact, the US side is hijacked by big business trying to enable a race to the bottom. Of course people will reject the whole deal if they find out about this.
Is the train Swiss? http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...national-chemical-buys-syngenta-43b/79741630/ China wants to be able to grow enough food to feed its population, recently they have had to import food to meet that end. They see GM crops as the way to increase their production, so they are buying know-how.