Who's your Favorite Hero of the Iliad?

Discussion in 'Books' started by Belgian guy, Oct 9, 2003.

  1. Belgian guy

    Belgian guy Member+

    Club Brugge
    Belgium
    Aug 19, 2002
    Belgium
    Club:
    Club Brugge KV
    So, who is your fav?

    And on a related note, did anyone ever tried to read the thing in it's original Ancient Greek? I had some ancient Greek in High school for three years and made an attempt, but it was way too hard. Had to read every verse 7-8 times to figure out what was being said.
     
  2. Footix

    Footix Member

    Dec 11, 1998
    Left Of The Dial
    Read it in Greek? Damn. I had a kid named Hector in class, and the teacher always asked him what it was like back then. Proof that most teachers aren't funny.

    Who was Mike Segroves?
     
  3. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ajax. He was just a normal guy kicking butt.

    The rest:
    Achilles was too emotional plus his mom went out and got him better equipment than everybody else, just like the kid who shows up with $200 cleats.

    Agamemnon violated his promise to Achilles. Not good leadership skills.

    Hector fought for the wrong side. Plus it's hard to root for somebody that had his ass dragged around the city like that.

    Odysseus had his own show, didn't have as many fighting scenes as Ajax, IIRC.

    What did Segroves do besides taunt the Trojan women and then never get out of the damn horse?
    ******
    It was in Greek?
     
  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I voted for Agamemnon. A valiant warrior, a skilled leader (for the most part), and he taught me a valuable life-lesson: do not return home from a journey with another woman, as that would really, really piss off your wife and cause countless other problems.

    Now, Odysseus comes a close second, what with a five-year goddess hook-up, BUT then you have the suitor problem once you get back to your own home. While he took care of it, and most likely had the servants clean up the mess for him, he still had to be thinking that, at some point during the 20 years, someone poached on Penelope....
     
  5. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Anyone ever read the graphic novel, "Age of Bronze"? Very researched and a very good telling of this tale.
     
  6. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
  7. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
    OH
    I went with Hector.
    Wasn't he the one defending the city? I seem to remember ALL the other heroes being on the Greeks' side. So Hector seemed pretty outmanned but held things together for as long as he could.

    Great poll, btw.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Achilles kicked Hector's butt. I voted for Achilles. He was 'the Mightiest of all Greeks' according to Homer or whoever the author was.

    PS: No, I didn't try to read it in Greek. Just getting past all the Greek names was enough of a challenge.
     
  9. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    I voted for Achilles, he was the sh!t. Brad Pitt better not screw that character in Troy.

    I'm assuming you were talking about Ajax the Greater and he was a very close second. Although his exit was pretty bad.
     
  10. cj herrera

    cj herrera New Member

    May 7, 1999
    Oakland, damn straig
    What about Iphigenea?
    An innocent sacrficed for that spiteful whoor Artemis.

    Actually, because of that, I vote Agememnon.
     
  11. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    I'd say a tie between Hector and Ajax. Ajax would probably be #1, except neither of the translations I've read featured him very prominently.

    Odysseus is cool...Achilles is a *#*#*#*#in' whining douchebag.
     
  12. branko97

    branko97 Member

    May 30, 2001
    New York City
    Spear pierces a Trojan warrior in the back of the neck and passes through his mouth, described thusly: "He gripped the cold bronze in his teeth/ And death was a mist about him."

    I can't remember which character that was, but it was a hell of a memorable death.
     
  13. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    Ajax is clearly the mightest warrior. The only thing that stops him from defeating Hektor is some godly fog or somesuch, I sort of forget.

    Achillies needed the aid of gods to defeat Hektor.

    Ajax told the Gods to *#*#*#*# off, and he got his for saying it, but he still managed to kick but.
     
  14. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The leader of the Trojans, Pete Carroll.
     
  15. M9fanatic

    M9fanatic Member

    Oct 31, 2000
    North Side.
    Ajax by far. I agree with whomever said Achillies was a whinny bitch.

    Though I really wanna see Brad Pitt later this summer as Achilies.
     
  16. kerpow

    kerpow New Member

    Jun 11, 2002
    Hector - why vote for a loser.

    Achilles - vain and gay.

    Odysseus - wise but old. I think he lost the joy of killing.

    Ajax - A man mountain. Probably not the brightest bulb in the box.

    Agememnon - Greedy bastard.


    I'd go with Diomedes
     

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