Shots fired at trump PA rally

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  1. soccernutter

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    You've seen ARF, yes? Not exactly a collision free sport. And, as Jitty said, so it rugby. But, again, I'm not talking about the sport, itself, but how it is talked about.
     
  2. Quakes05

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    "...according to witness accounts he was bullied in school (...almost every day), ...described as a loner, who was frequently bullied and sometimes wore "hunting outfits to school"...was teased for his poor hygiene and body odor, and that peers would say, “Hey, look at the school shooter over there!”..."

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    There haven't been reports of him being treated for any mental health issues, these could be confidential anyway, and it's probably true that some people are reluctant to seek help precisely because they might end up on some do-not-sell list. He probably didn't want that; he'd grown up with guns and enjoyed shooting at the range where he and his family were members.

    Additionally, and oddly enough, parents were both licensed counselors/social workers, and apparently both Matthew and his sister were registered republicans. A classmate who took a history class with Crooks said, “he definitely was [politically] conservative...It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

    He graduated high school and then finished an associate's degree in engineering science, although he was working in a nursing home kitchen ("Crooks was a dietary aide at Bethel Park Skilled Nursing and Rehabilitation Center - where he provided food and care for post-hospital elderly and sick people"), so he wasn't stupid. All signs point to a socially awkward, isolated kid who was probably hiding a lot. He knew when he climbed up on that roof that if he took a shot at Trump, he wasn't going to survive. In other words, he was suicidal which is synonymous with major depression.

    Clearly, he was a deeply disturbed and homicidal young man who wanted to go out with a bang.
     
  3. KCbus

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    I give you, the Great George Carlin. The most relevant part starts at 4:00, but the entire clip is spot on.
     
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  4. soccernutter

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  5. Quakes05

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    suicide by cop sounds right. and who knows how working around all that death and dying at the nursing home was impacting his mood. if you're already kind of depressed, that seems like a tough place to work.
     
  6. bigredfutbol

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    'Somewhat uniquely'.

    American football tackling is different than rugby--in the latter you're more likely to wrap up a player with your arms and pull them down. Both sports are prone to concussions and knee ligament damage, but American football adds the danger of using a helmet as a weapon.

    That said, rugby players are starting to get bigger so the likelihood of catastrophic back injuries and so forth are going up.

    The nature of the game--a series of discrete, highly choreographed set pieces in which players not only MIGHT but HAVE TO run straight into each other while wearing hard protective gear; all being orchestrated as part of a larger 'campaign' to move the ball into "enemy territory" has more than a little to do with the tendency for military-type language to seep into discussion about it.
     
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  7. soccernutter

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    As I understand it, that head gear which many rugby players wear is to prevent concussions. @The Jitty Slitter @Deadtigers is this correct?

    I don't ever recall hearing a non-American announcer calling a rugby player (like those in a scrum) a "tank."
     
  8. Sounders78

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    Maybe Jonah Lomu? ;) I mean, he certainly rolled over the English defenders.

     
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  9. Umar

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    Haha Mike Catt got the “speed bump” tag after that first Lomu try.
     
  10. bigredfutbol

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    I was talking about American football.
     
  11. rslfanboy

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    I thought it was to prevent cauliflower ear. :coffee:
     
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  12. Dr. Wankler

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    That’s why I wore one. It wasn’t going to do much to protect against a concussion.
     
  13. roadkit

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    Since we're playing armchair clinical psychologist, how does this diagnosis sound: kid was NOT a Republican but had to go along due to very domineering parents who refused to allow their son to be anything else. He tried (wanted to join the gun club, failed, etc.) was bullied at school, and pretty much saw no future, so maybe it was a just a big "Fvck You" to his parents?
     
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  14. Umar

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    If he had problems with his parents, shouldn’t he be shooting them instead of Trump?

     
  15. Moishe

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    Absolute legend! RIP
     
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  16. soccernutter

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    I know, and that is the point I have been making from the beginning - the casual acceptance of violence (as indicated by usage of language).
     
  17. roby

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    We've noticed! :whistling:
     
  18. Potowmack

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    Unless he left a suicide note or some sort of manifesto, I doubt we’ll ever know his real motivation.
     
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  19. The Devil's Architect

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  20. roadkit

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    As an armchair psychologist, while that might seem like a reasonable response, maybe he wanted to leave them with the trauma of having to explain what he did to other MAGAs.

    In other words, who the fvck knows, LOL
     
  21. Kryptonite

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    He's giving every detail of the events from Saturday like we all didn't see it on live TV.

    I also get the feeling this was written by someone else...oh wait he's taking about all the blood and the ears are the most bloodiest part of the body and all the blood in true TrumpRepetiton... Trumpetion?

    He hasn't tried to blame it on Antifa, BLM, radical Marxist Democrats...but it does seem like he's using some TrumpHyperbole.
     
  22. Deadtigers

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    I am positive this thing was staged. It just didn't seem real.
     
  23. roadkit

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    It was real. All of this talk of incompetence on the part of the USSS is real, but the 2nd shooter on the watertower, blah, blah, blah.

    I guess what makes the idea of it being staged is because it seems like just the thing Trumpworld would do.
     
  24. Deadtigers

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    Yes. And the piss poor USSS job from seeing him to evacuating the stage and then the photo op. Like none of it is what was done previous when they saw a threat. If Garland ever wanted to prove he wasn't a horrible AG pick, he could find a motive and the connection to the Trump campaign to change the narrative.
     
  25. roadkit

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    Thing is, it is pretty clear the bullet missed blowing Trump's brains out by less than an inch. I don't know how you stage that.
     

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