The Global Warming Thread

Don't forget the self-fulfilling prophecy aspect!

 

Exactly.
The pretence is worshipping (a) god, but in reality it's all about us humans being soo special.

 

Looks like NY Governor Kathy Hochul, with her usual charisma, has torpedoed congestion pricing that would have led to cleaner air, safer streets, green buses, more efficient subways, etc.

Can't thing of one good reason for this sudden U-turn other than fear of being disliked by a few loud people, which is quite pathetic...

 

Those are scientific way gathered facts.
That doesnot matter in the gop USA.
How many dead people because of covid didnot matter to the braindead denying facts?

 

The world is drowning in plastic, and we have a .2% solution:

https://www.propublica.org/article/delusion-advanced-chemical-plastic-recycling-pyrolysis


Plastic doesn’t break down in nature. If you turned all of what’s been made into cling wrap, it would cover every inch of the globe. It’s piling up, leaching into our water and poisoning our bodies.

Scientists say the key to fixing this is to make less of it; the world churns out 430 million metric tons each year.

But businesses that rely on plastic production, like fossil fuel and chemical companies, have worked since the 1980s to spin the pollution as a failure of waste management — one that can be solved with recycling.

Industry leaders knew then what we know now: Traditional recycling would barely put a dent in the trash heap. It’s hard to transform flimsy candy wrappers into sandwich bags, or to make containers that once held motor oil clean enough for milk.

Now, the industry is heralding nothing short of a miracle: an “advanced”type of recycling known as pyrolysis — “pyro” means fire and “lysis” means separation. It uses heat to break plastic all the way down to its molecular building blocks.

While old-school, “mechanical” recycling yields plastic that’s degraded or contaminated, this type of “chemical” recycling promises plastic that behaves like it’s new, and could usher in what the industry casts as a green revolution: Not only would it save hard-to-recycle plastics like frozen food wrappers from the dumpster, but it would turn them into new products that can replace the old ones and be chemically recycled again and again.

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Given the high stakes of this moment, I set out to understand exactly what the world is getting out of this recycling technology. For months, I tracked press releases, interviewed experts, tried to buy plastic made via pyrolysis and learned more than I ever wanted to know about the science of recycled molecules.

Under all the math and engineering, I found an inconvenient truth: Not much is being recycled at all, nor is pyrolysis capable of curbing the plastic crisis.

Not now. Maybe not ever.

 

I said the same thing a few years ago.

Recycling plastic is a waste, we need to tax it and tax it hard.

 

I can't remember where, but isn't a lot of plastic waste from the manufacturing process? In that factory a makes a part, ships it to b (wrapped in plastic), b combined a and b, sends to c, and so on. Each time wasting more and more plastic and gas transporting, rather than making the whole product in one place?

 

I don't know about youse guys but it's 79 F deg here with a 9 mph ocean breeze. Comphy!

 

Much too hot for me! Only 62 F here, thank you very much!

 

81 overnight and around 100 during the day with humidity that is impressive throughout the day.

 

From the article I posted, in order to recycle recyclable plastic, they need to use a lot of oil to fuel the process.

I'm amazed at the number of products that I remember were wrapped in cardboard or paper when I was a kid, and are now neatly wrapped in plastic and packaged in more plastic.

Single use plastic needs to be banned/taxed and we need to encourage everybody in the consumer chain to use real recyclable/perishable materials for packing.

 

The other nuts one you rarely see is how pallets of boxes are wrapped in 5 layers of stretch-tite plastic for transport.

Need to go back to crates.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/28/colorado-oil-gas-well-cleanup

Privatize the profits, socialize the pollution.

 

Why not tax their revenues and using that tax money to pay for clean up.

Or some type of fee that states would collect to do clean up afterwards.

 

You've solved the problem!

 

Estimated 20 tornados last night in the Chicago area, including one at O’Hare, Midway, and downtown. Almost a year to the day of the double digit number we got last summer. This is normal.

 

The Thames Barrier has to be replaced, because it's worn as it had to be closed more often than anticipated and it's no match anymore for what's coming because of global warming.

 

We got plans for the North Sea
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...-from-rising-north-sea?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

I'm sure no ecological damage will result from that...

 

During the ice age the whole thing was dry, nobody was complaining then

Especially not the mammoths roaming around in that vast plane.

 

Philly may have its first 100 degree day since 2012 today.

 

Is that bad?