The San Jose Earthquakes Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TheFalseNine, May 12, 2022.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another bay area kid ends up a homegrown for an MLS team other than the Quakes... 16 year old DaMario McIntosh from Newark CA... seems to be a regular occurrence




    Spivey
     
  2. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Good for him. John Fisher is a curse on this world.

    Although I laugh a bit at "developed" by the Roots' 510 project, which is like months old. And I'm technically a Roots owner. It's a good idea, etc.; gotta think there's a few other people with a much stronger claim to helping him.
     
  3. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was scoring goals for Project 510 in USL League 2 at age 14 two years ago.

    https://www.oaklandrootssc.com/news...-old-damario-mcintosh-scores-the-matchwinner/
     
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  4. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    It sounds like he was playing a game of poker with San Jose and MLS. Thought was that he wasn't willing to go the MLS route. Thus, no San Jose and I believe wasn't even on their protected list because they had become convinced he wouldn't go the MLS route. That was until he got a destination he presumably wanted, and then was willing to go the MLS route.
     
  5. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Quakes backed into the playoffs last year, they only won like 4 games after May 5, which means with their three wins this year Luchi managed 7 wins from May 5 2023 through June 2024
     
  8. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A video that should be mentioned in this thread....

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/video/san...kes-what-now-after-luchi-gonzalez-s-dismissal

    It's not either/or, it's all bad decisions by the front office. Hiring Luchi Gonzalez who was already a failure with a talented young FC Dallas team. Not making signings early enough this offseason, not making enough good signings. Not signing Diego Luna and Fidel Barajas to homegrown deals, two local kids who are playing for first place RSL instead of for the last place Quakes. Matt Doyle says they chose Cade Cowell over Luna instead of signing both... WTF. Not signing good goalkeepers, the Quakes goalkeepers have combined to give up 15 more goals than expected this season.

    Of course it goes even beyond the front office, to president Shawlee and beyond to their owner Fisher. They could have hired Will Kuntz from LAFC as their GM instead of Chris Leitch. But they went with Leitch either because he's already in the organization (to put it diplomatically, not a good reason when it's the worst organization across all major sports leagues in North America, having gone 11 seasons without a winning record), or because he was the cheaper option, or the less ambitious option. Kuntz went to LA Galaxy and turned around a dysfunctional organization, something Leitch clearly has failed to do here. LA is tied for the most points in the west and the Quakes are historically bad. Oh and the two teams play each other this weekend.
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Its difficult to be worse than the Chicago Fire, but San Jose might be.
    At least San Jose backed into the playoffs recently. :)

    Chicago Fire do spend money. They've only made the playoffs twice since 2009 and haven't gotten out of the first round since that time.

    And right now, they're again the worst in the East.

    It's almost impossible........................................
     
  10. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Chicago Fire were good in 2017 when they finished third in the Supporters Shield race. The Quakes haven't been good since 2012, and haven't had a winning record since 2013.


    Make that 11 seasons
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    This is what its come to for poor Quakes fans.
    Demanding to be recognized as the worst franchise in MLS. :)

    If you're going to be bad at something, aim for being the absolute worst!!!!!!!

    [I was giving credit to Chicago for spending tons of money and still being bad. :) Chicago has the 3rd highest payroll in the league!! An impressive level of incompetence.]
     
  12. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Things are going to get so much worse on the academy front before they get better.

    There’s usually a club out there that has an alarming academy offseason. Early on I’m sensing this might be the club.

    Such a poorly run club. I’m convinced they have the best territory for talent in the country and they waste it all.
     
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  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    .................its tough.

    When the problems start at the top with ownership; its hard to turn things around.

    Its like my favorite NFL team. The Washington Commanders. They were incapable of turning things around under Daniel Snyder. Impossble.

    I don't know what exactly the business plan is to succeed right now in San Jose.

    Its OK to say "We're not going to spend big money on foreign veterans, so let's go all in on youth and academy products." Well................then do it. Have that be the business plan. Get everybody in the organization on the same page. Tell the front office to prioritize those signings and tell the head coach that he's expected to play those players. I don't know if that works in 2024 MLS, but at least it would be a plan. Right now in San Jose its some sort of half-assed version of that.
     
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  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Exactly, all comes back to ownership. Same guy who oversees the A’s, who are also a terribly run team.

    When it’s these long term and systemic issues for sports teams, the best place to look is likely ownership.

    Not to say the owner makes every decision, but the owner oversees the whole ship and has ultimate responsibility.
     
  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quakes lost out on $4 million by failing to sign Fidel Barajas to a homegrown deal...


    But at least they would get paid for Emi Ochoa... unless he is out of contract... which it sounds like he will be... failure after failure.
     
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  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barajas: "Like Diego Luna, another gem Quakes let slip away"
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not great that the only successful development story from Quakes 2 is Max Arfsten who also (like Drake Callender, Diego Luna, Fidel Barajas, etc.) slipped through the cracks, drafted by Columbus...


     
  19. itscalvin

    itscalvin Member

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Mar 31, 2022
    Like Jamon said I think it was unlucky with the draft and with the stupid MLS Next rules that you cannot sign players directly from MLS Next Pro which somehow St Louis just did today. That case definitely not as disappointing as Barajas and Luna.
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Drama between the Quakes and RSL... the Quakes have already been embarrassed twice, losing Diego Luna (#3 in MLS in assists currently) and Fidel Barajas (sold for $4 million same as Quakes golden boy Cowell) to RSL in recent years.

    SJ and RSL are currently in a dispute over Owen Anderson (‘07). Anderson’s a midfielder who has had a good season at RSL. He joined in 22-23. RSL want to sign him. It’s being held up. As always, the player is the real loser in these disputes.​



    Update: I’m hearing that San Jose are now putting their foot down on selling his HG rights to RSL. These two clubs have had a lot of bad blood over the last few years. RSL has taken a number of SJE products, and it’s becoming a bad look for SJE. MLS is now involved to mediate.​





    I'm reminded of when the Quakes didn't bother to partner with a USL team as their affiliate to send players on loan, then the Portland Timbers partnered with Sacramento Republic, and the Quakes didn't like another team coming into their territory, so they raised a stink until the Republic became the affiliate of both MLS teams... always petty and reactive, never proactive.
     
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another they couldn't sign, Ethan Kohler with the U20s
     
  22. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    What a way to ruin a historic generation of bay area players.
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New homegrown defender Wilson Eisner


    Eisner, 22, will join the Earthquakes’ second team, The Town FC, on an MLS NEXT Pro contract for the remainder of the 2024 season before becoming an Earthquakes Homegrown Player effective Jan. 1, 2025. His MLS contract runs through the 2025 season with a club option for 2026.
    ...
    A native of Menlo Park, California, Eisner graduated from Menlo-Atherton High School before being invited to the San Jose Earthquakes’ 2021 preseason camp in Santa Barbara, where he spent time training with the first team. He subsequently attended Cornell University from 2021-23, where he earned First Team All-Ivy League honors as a freshman in 2021.​



    So instead of signing one of their many young prospects they signed some 22 year old rich Menlo Park (not far from their usual failed Stanford draft picks) kid who went to Cornell until last year and hasn't been playing since?
     
  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the Quakes board...

    Well that doesn't sound promising
     
  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--

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