Yanks abroad 2023-2024 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jun 3, 2023.

  1. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    So Everton can’t pay Tessman’s Inter wages? Or Inter wants too much of the wages paid maybe.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
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  3. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  4. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Disappointing news. His injury history is getting longer and more sustained. So much of his game is based on his athletic gifts. I’m afraid he might never be the same player.
     
  5. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its certainly concerning as hell. Its getting to JOB/Claudio territory here.

    Thank goodness weve had Johnny emerge as a very excellent candidate in the mean time.
     
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  6. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    It would be irrational for me to view this as a knee jerk: okay, we just need to move on from relying on Adams in our set up, but, I'm kind of, "okay, we just need to move on from relying on him in our set up".

    I know its irrational. The truth is the guy was healthy for all of '22 and a good chunk of '21. But it's worth noting at this point:

    October '18: Back injury (misses two weeks)

    March 31st 2019 through the rest of 2019...

    Feb '20: Torn Muscle Fiber injury, then covid shut down....

    October '20: Another month long injury

    May '21: Back injury****

    May '22: Short Thigh injury

    March '23-March '24: Leeds Injury into Bournemouth season.
    Plays for a few weeks in March, shut down again in April.

    Played in Copa America, shut down afterwards.

    I look at that, and generally speaking it looks like he was healthy in 2018, healthy for most of '21 and most of '22, and not healthy in '19, part of '20, and largely all of '23 and '24.

    What do we do with that? For me, he just becomes a part of the pool going forward, and until he has a sustained period of health again like he's only really had once in his career (November '20 through March '23, not coincidentally the one period in his career when he wasn't a consistent auto starter with his clubs (until August '22)) he has to be a guy we need to build without. It's time to really figure out other 6 options, hybrid guys like Tessmann etc, we know what Adams could do, we don't know what he can do, after injuries have essentially wiped out a good 18+ months of his career twice in the past five years. Johnny, Tessmann and friends need to realize this is their chance, and the next coach needs to understand which I think he will, that Adams is just one of many players, and no longer should be a lock anything.
     
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  7. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Adams is no longer a lock start, he’s in the top 20. If he’s there cool we appreciate that, but Johnny has earned the right to step inside that track
     
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  8. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Agreed, we don't even know if he can recapture his WC form (which went south just in time for the biggest international match of his career after he was run into the ground for the group stage) with catastrophic injuries in '23 and '24. We have to move on w/o him and if he can sustain health in '25-'26 we can talk then, but at this point, '23 and '24 have been largely wiped out, and Johnny had a great debut season in La Liga, and Tessmann had a breakout 20 months with Venezia beginning in November '22 (still bitter the Inter Milan move seems to have collapsed due to perhaps wages?!?!?!) and there are some more options too...we have to come to terms with the fact that Adams couldn't stay healthy in '19, '20, '23, and '24. The only years he was healthy fairly consistently, '21 and '22, he was not a lock starter for Red Bull Leipzig, and so had less wear and tear on his body. 4 of his past 6 years being derailed by injury is not a trend line we can rely on, period.
     
  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Young CBs starting the preseason. Fingers crossed.

     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Good to see Morris get the start for Boro in this preseason friendly.
     
  11. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    The inauguration of a potential contested battle for WC '26 and Copa America '28 (Please!) roster slots? One would hope. The vets need competition, based upon what we saw last month, and the kiddos keep coming. Hopefully this is a better European season than the helter skelter '23-'24 was.
     
  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yunus Musah says hello......
     
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  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Musah isn't playing well himself.
     
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  14. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s prob the fee on top of wages
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    It's even worse than that. He's starting playing not fully recovered time after time, he wasn't mostly healthy in 21-22, he was mostly injured, playing limited minutes and not playing well. He is playing healthy about 25-30% of time.
     
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  17. Shaster

    Shaster Member+

    Apr 13, 1999
    El Cerrito, CA, USA
    Should not call up in Copa. Or just have sub minutes (not over 30 min) per game.
     
  18. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Cade Cowell with another goal, this one a golazo. He is a constant threat on his side of the field. He looks great. He is maturing and looks like a national team player for sure.

    He should be called in for the upcoming friendlies.
     
  19. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Dude had 1 goal his previous 18 games with them. I have no idea what Cade Cowell is gonna be. He shows flashes of greatness/athleticism all the time and then vanishes for multiple months creating nothing to speak of. Its nice he's got 2 goals in 3 games to start this season, but he was completely shut down in the previous 18 game sample size. The only positive take away was that he only played 750ish minutes out of a possible 1,620, so at least there's hope considering in that season he got the equivalent of only 8ish starts.

    FTR, I would love, love, love it, if Cowell hit a grand slam going forward. Although it seems like he's been playing forever (debuted with my local defunct Reno team back in '19?), he's only 20 years old, just 20. He could still grow a ton, and I hope he does.
     
  20. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
  21. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    He attacks defenders like nobody else in our pool not named Pulisic. He is explosive and quicker with the ball on his foot than people think. His prior issues have been with clinical finishing, and as we can clearly see, his finishing is improving.

    This looks to be his break-out season with Chivas. I’d like to see what he looks like playing opposite Pulisic.
     
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  22. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    Yeah, that's how I feel. Going back years now, he'll have these stretches of a few games where he looks unstoppable and then he'll disappear for a dozen games (or more). He really needs a whole season of consistently looking good in Liga MX before I'm buying stock. But like you said, he's totally still young enough where things might click for him, and he does get there.
     
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  23. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Due to the relative youth of our national team, that description could apply to nearly every player.
     
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  24. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  25. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    3 goals and 1 assist in 3 games for Cowell.
     
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